My name is Neill Johnston.

Regarding all your information and guides for older men, of how to date, and seduce, or, if you wish, fuck those much younger woman, is a great idea and purpose.

BUT, I have to ask you a question about an older guy, dating younger woman, and I don’t mean to sound negative about it, either.

BUT, isn’t an older guy, dating, and having sex a much younger woman, much like dating and having sex with his daughter, yes, his daughter.

I am sure, that it is done pretty much all the time, and it is done more or less for status purposes for the older guy.

And what does SHE, get out of all this??????

Pretty well everything that she can imagine, for free, because, HE is paying for it all.

As good as your program is, for older guys to get, and have younger woman for sex, and her hanging off his arm all the time, there IS a price that HE has to pay in financial terms to keep her around.

Also, in a lot of cases, SHE, is not that very well, sexually experienced, either.

Anyhow, you want me to speak my mind, I just did.

Neill

That being said, one of the most useful points of the DVD for me was when Savoy listed and went into detail about the different types of relationships. He described that different types of relationships have different levels of commitment, how to move between the levels, and how to get the type of relationship that you want. You can get more than you think! I urge those thinking of buying the DVD not to limit themselves by the common misconceptions that they see in the movies or society. There’s nothing that says you can’t have several friends with benefits relationships if that’s what you want. In fact, after buying the DVD that’s exactly what I set out to do. By applying what I learned in the DVD, I was soon able to have three consistent friends with benefits without having to lie about it! This last part is huge for me, because I’m big on honesty in general. In fact, there is a part in the DVD where Savoy mentions honesty in relationships from a practical perspective, whatever your moral view on it may be.

I think it’s fair to mention that you don’t need to be in a relationship to reap the benefits of the product. In fact, I would even say it’s better to buy it when you’re single. When I purchased it I was in a semi-relationship with a girl and I wanted this DVD to fix everything because I felt like I was losing her. After buying it, my eyes were suddenly open as to why I was in that downward situation with her in the first place! Not only that, but I now had the knowledge to realize this relationship was at its end and the courage to be the man and end it myself. Afterwards, the information in the DVD became much more useful to me because I had a better idea of the kind of relationship I wanted and the kind of man I wanted to be BEFORE I got into my next relationship. Setting a strong frame in the first interactions sets the tone for the rest of the time with the woman, no matter what relationship it is that you want.

Since I’ve bought Relationship Management I’ve gone back to watch it once or twice to review. The core concepts stuck with me of course, but it was nice to be able to review specifics after a while. Also, the Q&A is useful to watch again in case you encounter any of the same questions that some of the other guys that took the seminar might’ve had. I heard someone in the community discussing the topic once and it went along the lines of “To get good at pickup you have to get good at relationship management. Once you can consistently approach, date, and close beautiful women the relationship inevitably comes next.” It’s the truth! Gaming with no relationship management skills is like boating without a compass. It’s easy jumping in and it will be fine for a while, but eventually you gotta figure out where the heck you’re going. The sooner you start the better it will be!

Very insightful and very calibrated.

Great post, it really reiterated much of what i’ve already learned about qualification.

Thanks for this

Fade

If I was in a relationship and then met some hot babe who said she wanted to have a one night stand with me, would it be her fault that I cheated? No, it would be my fault. If a girl cheats on her boyfriend with some PUA, well then it was going to happen some time. It’s her fault for cheating not the PUA. Are you telling me that she can’t say no?

If a woman is willing to cheat on her man then yes she would probably cheat on you too. But, I imagine that a PUA who is specifically out looking to get laid that night and isn’t really interested in finding a girlfriend doesn’t really care whether or not the woman in question is cheating on her man or not.

PUA’s don’t make women cheat. That’s as insult to women. Do you really think women can be tricked into having sex. If it were only that easy.

Give it a break.

Good post, Adonis.

I like what Cory Skyy has to say about inner game and confidence. And, I like what the Authentic Mna Program has to say. But, I think that realistically if I wait for women to approach me because I have some kind of great presence and confidence I will be alone. I think I will need to approach and do it often to get good at it and that it akes more than confidence. I think Cory Skyy and Decker from AMP each have a gift that I find hard to believe I could have. I don’t think women will approach me. I think I will have to do the majority of the approaching. Do you agree?

I was just wondering…what is the name of that intro music tune that you play, just before the interview comes on with David?? It sounds olamost new age. What’s it called??

Thats the most contradictory thing ive ever heard!

Anyway this whole thing is rediculous. Boyfriend destroyers? I mean come on if this girl is going to go out and cheat on her boyfriend because you said some ‘non AFC, SMT BF destroyer’ lines to her then what kind of woman do you think she is? You think she wont do the exact same thing to you? And what kind of woman do you want laying in your bed?

Guys, IF this guy is getting laid its dispite these theories on the internet not because of them.

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Your technique clearly works, but I think the logic with which you claim it to be ethical is flawed. Of course it is ultimately the girl with the boyfriend’s choice as to whether or not she betrays him and gets with the PUA. But as the PUA, your very decision to talk to her makes this outcome much more likely; in fact, come to think of it, why would you even be making the choice to game her unless you thought you had a chance of scoring?

So, to make this more clear:

A PUA following your method is CHOOSING to do something that HE KNOWS has a chance of harming someone else, namely her boyfriend. It is the PUA who chooses to take the action that brings about this outcome, NOT her.

Of course she agrees to it, and is therefore partly responsible, but the PUA is too, because he initiates it, knowing full well that he may succeed. And to succeed in this instance, is to hurt someone else. He knows this too.

Bottom line is, seducing seriously committed women always hurts someone. You can’t argue with that. And since the PUA initiates it, knowing full well that there’s a good chance of his success, he is partly responsible.

It’s like a salesman who is trying to sell someone something they already have and weren’t entirely looking for. Of course it is ultimately the customer’s choice as to whether they buy. No shit. But the salesman does a lot of work and convincing, all the while knowing that the customer doesn’t necessarily need the item. Who’s being the most ethical here? Definitely not the salesman.

I’ve struggled with this ethical dilemma for a along time, because good game certainly gives one the ability to do things like seducing women with boyfriends. But I’ve come to the conclusion, ultimately, that you’re wrong. Why? Because it’s pretty damn clear that seducing another man’s woman harms someone, and the PUA who does it is aware, at least to some extent of the harm he will cause from the very start.

I ask you this. If someone takes an action that they knew the whole time, if successful, would harm someone else, is that ethical? Are they free from fault? Obviously not.

Don’t get me wrong, you’re a mad-skilled PUA, just wrong on this topic.

And God, she’s horny as fuck. Just look at the subconcious thing she’s doing with the straw, moving it in and out of the cup. Freud would be proud.