Thats the most contradictory thing ive ever heard!

Anyway this whole thing is rediculous. Boyfriend destroyers? I mean come on if this girl is going to go out and cheat on her boyfriend because you said some ‘non AFC, SMT BF destroyer’ lines to her then what kind of woman do you think she is? You think she wont do the exact same thing to you? And what kind of woman do you want laying in your bed?

Guys, IF this guy is getting laid its dispite these theories on the internet not because of them.

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Your technique clearly works, but I think the logic with which you claim it to be ethical is flawed. Of course it is ultimately the girl with the boyfriend’s choice as to whether or not she betrays him and gets with the PUA. But as the PUA, your very decision to talk to her makes this outcome much more likely; in fact, come to think of it, why would you even be making the choice to game her unless you thought you had a chance of scoring?

So, to make this more clear:

A PUA following your method is CHOOSING to do something that HE KNOWS has a chance of harming someone else, namely her boyfriend. It is the PUA who chooses to take the action that brings about this outcome, NOT her.

Of course she agrees to it, and is therefore partly responsible, but the PUA is too, because he initiates it, knowing full well that he may succeed. And to succeed in this instance, is to hurt someone else. He knows this too.

Bottom line is, seducing seriously committed women always hurts someone. You can’t argue with that. And since the PUA initiates it, knowing full well that there’s a good chance of his success, he is partly responsible.

It’s like a salesman who is trying to sell someone something they already have and weren’t entirely looking for. Of course it is ultimately the customer’s choice as to whether they buy. No shit. But the salesman does a lot of work and convincing, all the while knowing that the customer doesn’t necessarily need the item. Who’s being the most ethical here? Definitely not the salesman.

I’ve struggled with this ethical dilemma for a along time, because good game certainly gives one the ability to do things like seducing women with boyfriends. But I’ve come to the conclusion, ultimately, that you’re wrong. Why? Because it’s pretty damn clear that seducing another man’s woman harms someone, and the PUA who does it is aware, at least to some extent of the harm he will cause from the very start.

I ask you this. If someone takes an action that they knew the whole time, if successful, would harm someone else, is that ethical? Are they free from fault? Obviously not.

Don’t get me wrong, you’re a mad-skilled PUA, just wrong on this topic.

And God, she’s horny as fuck. Just look at the subconcious thing she’s doing with the straw, moving it in and out of the cup. Freud would be proud.

One of my major sticking points is the conversation… somehow with some girls especially if they’re -8 I don’t have such a big problem and I can speak my mind, have a better sense of humor and feel more confortable… but when they’re +8, I get stuck, all of a sudden the uncomprehensible silences come up, I don’t know what to say, my sense of humour seems to be more irritable. What happens here? I know that we’re supposed to be able to behace similarly with all of them but somehow I almost unconsciously start validating myself in front of a 9 or a 10 and lose the game. What strategies or tools can be applied to surmount this problem?

This was an entire audio of basics and sticking points. Name it that. Don’t title the audio SNL’s when SNL’s only encompassed 10 minutes or less. Damn.

But I also agree, the key is being comfortable with the tension, that’s really important and you’re right, most guys are afraid to hold it.

Thanks for this awesome post man, your tips are the shit.

Hey ******
Cool profile on Zoosk and I hopped over, hoping I’d be just a little impressed…
I’m just wondering are you too poor to afford premium and reply like a nice naughty rich girl should… I don’t like poor girls that much, they don’t buy me so many nice things and treat me like their prince!

(I got this back 4 hrs later)
Fuck off!!!! I don’t have time for bastards! And trust me YOU are SO NOT my type, so take your shitty comment and never text me again because I don’t have time for games.

Hit me, what I do wrong? Too much of something somewhere?
She had a real saucy profile, but I’m thinking she’s not THE Alpha Woman…

Gauge her response. In fact, you will more than likely hear that exact response. But the way she says it is what you are going on. And you are setting things in motion for her to start attacking her boyfriend.

Also keep in mind the delivery. Do not deliver this in any sort of sarcastic manner or you WILL look like a douche no matter what her response. Say it as genuinely as you can. Hell, I PREFER it when women have other boyfriends (gets me off the hook for taking her to dinners & movies…and I don’t have to do Christmas and Valentines stuff for her either!). So when I say it, I really do mean that it would be incredible (though it is highly unlikely that what I am saying is actually true in her case).

One last thing to keep in mind: The perfectly content woman CANNOT be seduced. Lucky for me, there are so few ‘perfectly content’ women!